erin says:
umm. bad time to ask this question but.......
does anyone know what movie it was that this guy clamis he can sniff (not look at it) underwear and know what color of hair the owner of the undies had.
i want to say the big lebowski. but i know thats not right..
i keyword searched "underwear sniffer" at IMBD. but that didnt work.
hummm...
oh and.. yeah. booking movies. im glad you work so hard for us! thank you.
: )
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 8:08 am
nicole says:
That sounds familiar to me, too...
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 8:37 am
justin says:
That movie was Vibes. Jeff Goldblum was the panty sniffer.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 8:41 am
Steve Kirks says:
Dan:
Thanks for the post--it really helps with my perspective. I think I've learned a few things but most of all it seems that butts in seats equals power with distributors. I haven't been to see as many movies as I should at the Moxie due to fear--what if I don't like it? My fear factor is generally unfounded, I'm sure, but the descriptions in the Moxie newsletter/RSS feed don't do very much to encourage me to plant my butt in the seat.
I'm a customer that wants to hear from people who've seen the movie before I go. That's true for any venue, any theater. I choose to only go to the Moxie for the atmosphere first and the content second. Heck, I'd go if you were only showing uncensored Family Guy episodes that I had seen hundreds of times. That's because I know and can control my biggest concerns: atmosphere and content quality.
Back to the descriptions...
I recognize as a consumer, I have a responsibility to dig a little deeper after reading the Moxie newsletter to see what I can find out about these films. I'll vow to do more of that in the future. Do you and Nicole get a chance to see these films before they are shown? Can you give us a "rundown" of what you think?
Dan, I'm invested in you and Nicole as movie people who happen to run a theater. If you review a movie that you're showing, say you don't like a it but point out the strong points, you're starting the conversation. You're encouraging me to "get my butt in the seat" and form my own opinion. Remember that due to the content you're showing and the location of the theater, your audience is (likely) more intelligent than the average moviegoer. Try engaging their brain before they hit the door. Once they're here, the movie will do the rest.
Final note: partial RSS feeds suck. Give Moxie customers a way to access full feeds somehow. I read every one of your weblog posts and the constant click through is tedious. If you're concerned about stats, try Feedburner.
Steve
PS: If this sounds like a rant, I'm sorry. If I didn't care, I wouldn't write.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 8:51 am
nicole says:
Oh yeah...and Dan forgot to mention...we have great help from a man named Paul when it comes to booking films. He is very creative and has been in the business long enough to know what works and what doesn't for a single-screen theater. Plus, he's seen a ton of the movies at film fests, where we don't have that option at the moment. He and his theater have been great mentors.
Just thought I'd throw that in there.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 9:03 am
--The Todd from Scrubs says:
We found a pair of underwear (a thong) in the hallway tonight.
They're mine. Sorry about that.
--The Todd
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 9:09 am
Oz says:
Very interesting.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 9:13 am
Senator Bluto Blutarski says:
Over? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Glad to hear that your luck has turned on the high heels of Transamerica.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 9:20 am
--Jeff says:
Who are these "distributors" Dan? Gimme their numbers and we'll create a campaign letting them know how poorly their films are being played and marketed in the other theatres in Springfield.
Seriously, this sounds like typical Hollywood Movie Distributor Crap. It's only unfortunate that they (being Hollywood in general) won't recognize what killed "going out to see a movie" until it's too late. They rant about piracy and low theatre turnout and then turn a blind eye to the innovation/tranformation in theatre development. Not understanding that people don't want to listen to cell phones go off, children crying, or high school kids talking, they refuse to believe that smaller niche theatres are the way of the future. Instead, they bury their head in the sand, tell their Distrubutors to sell to the highest bidder (with the highest profit margins) and continue what they think is the best thing.
It's not, and they can't see it for all of the dollar signs in their eyes.
Sheesh. Sorry about the rant. If I had tinfoil, I might have starting making a hat. I'll get back to work now.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 9:24 am
--Jeff says:
Ironically, the Portly One himself, George Lucas, believes the death of the big budget movies like Star Wars are no more.
Click Here for the story at New York Daily News if you care.
From the article: "In the future, almost everything that gets shown in theaters will be indie movies," Lucas declared. "I predict that by 2025 the average movie will cost only $15 million."
Funny how an indie film is $15 mil. We shot on in college for much less... :)
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 9:32 am
Nate says:
No, that was my pair of thongs. And I agree about the idiocy of distributors and their blind eyes. They're blind in more ways than that, but oh well. I sincerely believe it's their own graves they dig.
And, hypothetically, god forbid, if C16, were to drive The Moxie out of business, you can bet those niche films would dry up pretty darn fast. It's bizarre - it means they're competing for a segment of the market that they didn't care about before, and - should they suddenly become the victors - would immediately cease to care about thereafter. Competition is competition, I agree, but that's just viciousness that actively works to lower our quality of life.
And seems to me like someone needs a LOT of encouragement before pulling the trigger to see a movie. Seems like a funny thing to "fear," not liking a movie. And it seems a lot like a very, very timid life based solely on the validation of others.
Sorry for the thorniness, but that was an incredibly irritating thing to read.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 9:38 am
Nate says:
That last paragraph sounds funny. I was being vague, but not really. By "someone" I meant the earlier comment.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 9:40 am
Caleb says:
I agree with you Nate. It's a shame people can't decide things for themselves anymore.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 10:05 am
Steve Kirks says:
Nate:
I'm facing the reality of modern life where I have plenty of options on what to do with my free time. My "fear" is that I won't enjoy spending my free time at a particular movie versus spending time doing something I already know is fun/relaxing/engaging/whatever. Take restaurants for example. Do you walk in to just any restaurant to eat a meal? Do you possibly read the menu online, talk about it with others who have been there and even read a restaurant review in the paper before going? How much convincing to you need before you try anything new in life? Don't define "fear" by traditional methods.
The point isn't that if I need my ass kissed before I give Dan and Nicoloe $8 for a ticket. The real issue is with so many options for entertainment (TiVo'd shows, conversation over coffee, video games) I need to be more engaged by the Moxie before I'll move my "butt" from one seat to another. Dan's weblog engaged me during the Moxie startup, but I'm finding that I'm not being pulled in for the movies. Here's a suggestion: user movie reviews from regulars. Use their experience to pull me in and make me want to be part of the Moxie community and a Moxie regular.
As far as your "timid" comment about me, it's out of line. If you wouldn't say it sitting across a table from me in the same room, you shouldn't say it all.
Steve
PS -- Dan, I promote the Moxie at every opportunity, talking about the environment, the popcorn and most of all, the people who make it happen. I do it because I believe your and Nicole's vision and the quality of your character, not because I'm a movie buff or indie film fan.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 10:25 am
evilvet says:
Steve, et al:
A long time ago, when I was a student in Columbia, I worked at The Blue Note, which is an incredible live music treasure, back when it was a warehouse off of I-70. There were people who would pick and choose the shows that they wanted to see, having a pretty good idea what they would hear and expect, and stay home or do other worthwhile things if what they had read or heard didn't necessarily strike their fancy. There were others, however, that utilized the venue in an entirely different manner. They were the ones who would walk up, pay their 8 to 10 bucks, get their hand stamped then ask, "Who's playing?" before strolling into the void. These devotees were loyal and adventurous, and knew that on any given night magic might happen. They were also the heart and soul of The Blue Note One night they may see the Belairs for the millionth time, an unknown SoCal band named Red Hot Chili Peppers, a reggae act direct from Jamaica, a jazz act like Sun Ra and his Arkestra...or they may see a real clunker. That was part of the adventure. Unless you got beer spilled on you or worse, you were guaranteed an experience, based on the creative and well informed bookings of Richard King, the proprietor.
You get the analogy. Perhaps The Moxie should be approached in the same way. Either go in informed, or just find out when the show starts. Show up. You may see the next great sleeper or a documentary about genital mutilation. Hopefully, whichever method will provide for an enjoyable time and you'll go away having enjoyed the experience. Far be it for me to say, but that may be the ideal approach, someone who plunks down the change, buys a bag of popcorn and a beer, then asks, "So, what's playing?"
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 10:59 am
Steve Kirks says:
evilvet:
*Now* I'm engaged! It's takes a different kind of key to unlock everyone's enjoyment and this may be mine! Ah, the pure randomness of it all, the adventure and exhilaration of not quite knowing what will hit the screen when the lights go down.
Wow....
Now I've got a reason to *crave* going to the Moxie.
Thanks!
Steve
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 11:05 am
Nate says:
[i]As far as your "timid" comment about me, it's out of line. If you wouldn't say it sitting across a table from me in the same room, you shouldn't say it all.[/i]
Actually, I probably would. I’d probably say it with a wink and a smile, but I’d still say it. You can ask people who know me, some of whom have posted here, about my unfortunate lack of social tact. It can exhibit itself on blogs or across tables.
You obviously care enough to write detailed posts, Steve, so I don’t question you on that, and this is a pretty light hearted website, so I don’t want to turn it in to instapundit. But this is a discussion worth having, so I’ll respond to your response and leave it. Promise.
Actually, Steve, I don’t need a lot of prompting to try a new restaurant. Spontaneous visits to new restaurants are one of my favorite things to do. Again, ask my friends! Maybe I drive by it, or I’ve heard one or two things about it. But that’s about it.
New downtown steakhouse? Sold! It’s a steakhouse! It’s a house with steaks! It’s downtown! Who needs anything else? Pacific Rim fusion? What the hell’s that? Who cares! Pile up my plate with some Chilean Sea Bass you crazy Ocean Zen you!
You see? I kinda feel the same way about movies, the “options of modern life” notwithstanding. Options are just that. Options to choose, and I don’t need to synthesize several sources of research (citing them in an MLA formatted bibliography of course) before making a leap.
But this is all beside the point. In your first post, however you may wish to clarify it later, you give a pretty clear impression that the worst thing in the world would be for you to see a movie that you didn’t absolutely love. You say you want opinions from multiple people: your friends, customer reviews on the blog, reviews from Dan and Nicole. This is even after you say, “My fear factor is generally unfounded, I'm sure.”
Yes, I understand your flexible use of the word “fear,” but we are talking about the same effect, in any case.
If you didn’t mean to sound stricken by paralysis, I apologize. My post was aggressive. But…well…you did. Sound stricken by paralysis, I mean.
I’ve eaten at bad restaurants and I’ve seen bad movies. None of it was truly wasted time. It’s how I know what the good ones are.
I liked evilvet’s memories of the Blue Note, and the implied comparison, but I don’t think anyone’s asking you to be the “heart and soul” of the Moxie, should you choose not to. In your first post, however, you seem to be asking a lot from people before you decide to see a movie there. You want to give the impression that it is the lack of information that is the only reason you’ve stayed away, but for some reason I doubt that’s it (there are also other tireless promoters of the theatre that have been so gosh-golly-gee thrilled that it’s here that they’ve made it a habit, knowing that some movies will suck, some will be good, and a few will be through the roof great.)
You don’t have to make it a habit, but gosh, there have been, like, what, close to 50 movies so far? Jesus, see one already. I will personally, to your face I mean, buy you a Fitz’s root beer or an Oatmeal Stout. Those are two of my favorites, anyway. YOU may want to research it first! ;-)
I can drop a whole bunch more smiley emoticons if it helps.
;-) ;-) ;-)
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 11:17 am
Nate says:
[i]Why doesn't this italicize properly?[/i]
Damn you Dan! Damn your crazy html!
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 11:18 am
brian of moore says:
why does *this* italicize properly?
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 11:25 am
brian of moore says:
... for future reference the brackets [i] .... those arent actually html ... most often referred to as BBcode...
html code uses the greater than and less than signs: <i>
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 11:36 am
Nate says:
Excuse me. Are you Lindsey Jacobellis?
I thought not.
I am not talking to anyone right now unless they are Lindsey Jacobellis.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 11:43 am
Steve Kirks says:
Hi all. This is the real Steve Kirks. The people responsible for being Steve Kirks in previous posts have been sacked.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 11:53 am
Dan says:
If nothing else, The Moxie is quite adept at sparking conversations...
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 2:16 pm
[ The Moxie Blog ]
--Jeff says:
Those responsible for sacking the people who were supposed to sack Steve Kirks, have also been sacked.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 2:18 pm
--The Wonder Llama says:
The directors of the firm hired to continue the comments after the other people had been sacked, wish it to be known that they have just been sacked. The comments have been completed in an entirely different style at great expense and at the last minute.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 2:23 pm
Derek says:
Dan: Indeed. Especially conversations about how awesome The Moxie is.
You're very popular. When I read this post last night after a late dinner, there were no comments. Now, after a late lunch today, it's absurd how much enjoyable discourse there is to read. I'm very impressed.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 2:39 pm
Just Doesn't Seem to Get it Guy says:
Dan, thanks for the informative post. Can't wait to come to The Moxie. Do you think you could book Match Point? That'd be awesome.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 3:57 pm
Caleb says:
I don't know about all this. But I DO know research doesn't always help. I saw War of the Worlds this summer based on my love for the original radio play and on none other than movie reviews. Critics for the most part seemed to love it (73% on Rotten Tomatoes). So I gathered some friends and went. That was definitley 2 hours of my life completely wasted. Shame on you Spielberg. He could learn something from Peter Jackson, methinks. Make a big budget special FX movie and have a good story on top of it? WOW!
This seems like the wrong post to mention this on, but I hope you guys get Paris, je t'aime this summer or next fall.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 9:15 pm
Derek says:
Caleb's right. I'm not sure what he's right about specifically, but something in that fairly short comment was accurate. Probably a few things, actually.
¤ Posted on March 7, 2006 @ 11:24 pm
nicki says:
right, i was livid for like a week after war of the worlds.
i'm still slightly peeved about it when someone brings it up. :(
i need to make it a goal to go back to the moxie this month. i've neglected you, dan and nicole!
¤ Posted on March 8, 2006 @ 10:15 am
Robotech_Master says:
Do you guys only try to book "first-run" movies? Or will you pull in some older stuff too? I can't admit to being terribly interested in any of the movies I've read that you have been showing. What about getting some of the older stuff that I know still has prints circulating? Hong Kong movies like God of Gamblers, Chinese Ghost Story, Green Snake, Ashes of Time, etc., anime titles like Miyazaki's great works (subtitled, of course), other foreign films like the works of Juzo Itami or Akira Kurosawa, cult classics like The Wall or This Is Spinal Tap (or even some of the less-renowned follow-ups that the Tap trio did, like Best In Show or A Mighty Wind), Fearless Vampire Killers, etc.? Even just as a once-in-a-while alternative to your "normal" programming they might generate some interest.
¤ Posted on March 8, 2006 @ 11:48 am
Caleb says:
Short Circuit Festival, baby!
¤ Posted on March 8, 2006 @ 12:11 pm
Johnny 5 says:
Number 5 is alive!
¤ Posted on March 8, 2006 @ 12:17 pm
Dan says:
Robotech: You must be new here... The Moxie shows older stuff at least once a month. The problem is, we always lose money when we show older prints. We book older movies like HAROLD & MAUDE, NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD, NAPOLEON DYNAMITE, and HEDWIG & THE ANGRY INCH more as a means for luring in new faces than anything else. Showing them more than once a month would be cost prohibitive.
¤ Posted on March 8, 2006 @ 12:27 pm
[ The Moxie Blog ]
Nate says:
But the name, "Robotech Masters", is great! No one remembers that show. If someone busts out "Invid", or "Zentraedi", this geek just might lose it.
¤ Posted on March 8, 2006 @ 1:22 pm
Robotech_Master says:
Ah, I see.
But I'm not interested in any of those movies either! Show something I wanna see (as referenced in my prior posting :) and I'll come right down!
I do have to say your location is great. With the exception of a couple of uptown and downtown routes, you're effectively on every bus route in town. :)
¤ Posted on March 8, 2006 @ 2:36 pm
Robotech_Master says:
P.S. - I searched your site but I don't see anything listing what you've got scheduled in the next few weeks. Is there such a place and I missed it?
¤ Posted on March 8, 2006 @ 2:38 pm
Robotech_Master says:
Never mind, just found it, in the "Films" section. (Though a suggestion: a list of showtime that lists every showtime and every film in one long list would be good, so that I could tell at a glance what was coming up over the next week/weeks.
And geez, I wish I'd known about you guys a few months ago when I see now that you were showing things I would have been interested in.
¤ Posted on March 8, 2006 @ 2:45 pm
Robotech_Master says:
Hm. Never mind, found that too.
I should shut up before I make myself look any worse. :P
¤ Posted on March 8, 2006 @ 2:51 pm
Yoda says:
If only a calendar there was, yes, yes!
¤ Posted on March 8, 2006 @ 2:51 pm
nathaniel carroll says:
I know you just posted a huge thing about the pains of ordering movies, but I wanted to ask about this one anyway:
The Devil and Daniel Johnston
http://www.sonyclassics.com/devilanddaniel/trailer.html
If you can't show it @ the Moxie, then let's rent it on DVD and watch it sometime.
xoxo,
nc
¤ Posted on March 9, 2006 @ 12:27 am
Caleb says:
Nathaniel when are you going to give Dan & Nicole one of your CDs to play at the Moxie?!
¤ Posted on March 9, 2006 @ 12:51 am
brian of moore says:
i saw pink floyd at the pyramids...
.. uh.. maybe that was the dead...
i saw both bands with a guy named tim.. so i get them confused
... no.. no i saw pink floyd at the laserdome
... but the band wasnt there.. just the music....
..... shine on you crazy diamonds
(5 cool points for anyone that gets it)
¤ Posted on March 9, 2006 @ 1:35 am
Frank says:
Freaks N Geeks brian of moore?
¤ Posted on March 9, 2006 @ 9:01 am
nicole says:
The Devil and Daniel Johnston is on our wish list. So is the Neil Young documentary. But so far our track record with music-related films has been pretty poor (Townes Van Zandt, Coachella...but both were in February).
¤ Posted on March 9, 2006 @ 9:50 am
Caleb says:
Movie suggestion: The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things. It looks...uh...twisted? It starts March 10 so I figured maybe you guys could get a copy by May perhaps? It's based on a book so you could probably do a cross-promotion with Well Fed Head like you did with Everything Is Illuminated.
¤ Posted on March 9, 2006 @ 5:19 pm
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